The Studebaker Sage               Club Website: www.sagebrushstudebaker.com Volume 20, Issue 12 January, 2009

Happy New Year. See you at the Jan. Meeting.

Officers:

all area codes (775)

President: Pete Kronenberg 782-4433

VP/Tourmaster: Ralph Capurro 885-7968

Secretary: Charlie Case 882-5332

Treasurer: Gary Crabtree 463-3332

Editor: Gary Crabtree 463-3332

Membership: Steven Schnell 425-4868

Inside this Issue:

1 Notes from the President Kronenberg

2 tips from club

2-3 Sec. Notes

3-5 Ads, Events

5-10 Events, Laughs & Address page

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING PRESIDENTIAL NOTES PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING AND BRING YOUR IDEAS AND COMMENT

PRESIDENTIAL NOTES

A note from your President.

I Peter J. Kronenberg swear to uphold the official duties of President of
the Sagebrush Studebaker Club, to the best of may abilities, for the year
2009.  

First:  I want to say we are very fortunate, to have Mr. Ralph Capurro, as Vice President/Tour Master this year.
His expertise is well known with all the car shows and other car club related activities around Nevada and all
the surrounding states.  Keep up the good work Ralph.

Second:  I would like to say we are very fortunate, to have as our club secretary Mr. Charlie Case,
who has done an outstanding job with this job in the past.  I am looking forward to working with Charlie in the future.

Third:  I would like to say we are also very fortunate to have Mr. Gary Crabtree as our treasurer, again this year,
as his abilities are unquestionable.  I am also looking forward to working with Gary.

I also think, with this excellent group of volunteers, we will have a very good 2009, with our studies and all our club
activities.

I would like to invite all club members, to call me any time, with any ideas or comments that they may have.
I want to have an open and accessible line of communication with all of you club members, at all times.


My home phone number is 775 782-4433, sorry no cell number, and my email
address is:  stude66@juno.com

Thank you for your cooperation.

See you at our next meeting on January 20, 2009.

Happy New Year!  Studebakerly yours, Pete

We had fun at the Sparks parade, can you name the driver in this pic?

Tips from your Club

MOTOR OIL is in the news again. See Co-Operator for Dec. 2008 for details

Keeping Your Cool

One chronic complaint in the old car hobby is over heating. This can have a variety of sources, including the simple stress of asking a decades old cooling system to keep an engine cool in a hot, slow moving parade. If you have a Studebaker V-8 that overheats and you have recently installed a reproduction water pump, here is some important information from log time SDC member and excellent mechanic Scott Stastny of Deluxe Autowerks in West Chicago IL. It comes via Robert Kapteyn. We thank Robert for sending it along, and for Scott's research to make the following determination:

Scott had been working on a 1953 Starliner with a 1963 drive train that had bee plagued with overheating. Scott used modeling clay and found .128” clearance between the impeller and the water pump housing. He then located an NOS Studebaker pump and determined there was only .020” clearance between the housing and the impeller! In other words, the reproduction pump had over 6 times the clearance between the pump impeller and the housing! This would clearly result in greatly reduced coolant flow. Further the reproduction pump had smaller impeller blades and a thicker gasket! Both of these items would only increase the cooling flow problem with the reproduction pump.

There are several ways to identify suspect reproduction pumps. The casting number on the reproduction pump Scott analyzed was 527070, the same as on the NOS pump. However, the numbers were 5/16” high, versus only 1/4” high on the NOS pump.

There is a Studebaker Letter germane to this discussion. It is #S-1048, Dated July 10, 1962. It states that the distance between the mountin flange and the outer tip of the impeller should be .938”. Scott measured the reproduction pump and found it to be only .834”.

The easiest way to tell the difference is to examine the hub onto which the fan blade bolts. On the reproduction pump, the hub measured .280” thick and fully machined. On the NOS pump, the flange was only .230” thick and was sheared and rough on the edges.

Not all reproduction pumps are bad but they should be checked to make sure you V-8 will have the correct water coolant flow. Scott found another reproduction pump that had the exact dimensions of the NOS pump, and was of the same design. Installing that pump on the 1953 Starliner in question solved the overheating problem on that car.

This item is from the Co-Operator Sep. 2005 page 26

SECRETARY NOTES:

SAGEBRUSH CHAPTER SDC

Minutes of November 2008 Meeting

President Schnell opened the meeting at 7 p.m. at the Round Table Pizza in Carson City. Seventeen members were present including; Larry & Mary Schnell, Gary Crabtree, Pete Kronenberg, Charlie & Carol Case, Art & Carol Van Dyke, Ralph Capurro, Terry Ressler, Larry Craco, Chris Fleischmann and his mother, Julie, Jay & Tina Hubbard, Tom & Liz Wise.

Secretary's Report: The secretary read the minutes of the October meeting and noted a correction as follows: "The club will pay $20.00 per member" instead of $20.00 per couple as previously reported. A question was asked, "What the cost limit was for the dirty Santa gift exchange?" It was agreed that it would be a maximum of $10 to $15.00, however, it is strictly voluntary, and it is up to the individual member.

Treasurer's Report:  The current balance is $5,324.

Old Business: The Sparks Christmas Parade is December 6th and the $40 entry fee has been paid according to Pete. The parade will begin at 1:00 p.m. but entries will need to be lined up in the staging area earlier. Carson City members will meet at the WalMart - Round Table Pizza parking lot near 395 freeway and College Parkway at 10 a.m.

Christmas Dinner Party: Pete reaffirmed our reservation at the Carson Valley Inn in Minden on December 9th. Pete must receive your RSVP by December 5th. Member’s share of the cost is $15.50 for each person attending or $31.00 per couple. Dinner choices are salmon, chicken or prime rib. Rooms are available at the Inn under a group rate of $62.00 in the event of inclement weather. Call Pete at 782-4433.

Elections: Nominations of club officers was confirmed and accepted by majority vote. 2009 officers are Pete Kronenberg, President; Ralph Capurro, Vice President; Charlie Case, Secretary; Gary Crabtree, Treasurer.

New Business: Ralph Capurro (2009 tour master) announced the adopt-a-car sign up was due and the fee will be $100 a year. Larry Craco made a motion to continue our support, 2nd by Gary and accepted. Ralph discussed having a sweetheart tour on Valentines Day and will arrange a schedule of events. Discussion also centered on the Orphan Meet and its future. Pro and con comments were made ranging from discontinuing it to limiting it to a joint picnic event without judging - a show of hands was taken in favor of continuing the event. Pete recommended tabling further action until after the first of the year. Ralph announced Tom Wise bought a 1948 Champion convertible from Bart Ray.

The meeting adjourned at 8:15 after Larry Craco gave his "show and tell" humorous account of how he got his first car at age 15 1/2 and the trouble and tribulations he got into with it.

Respectfully submitted,

Carlie Case, Secretary

cc: to all members

No Dec. meeting so no minutes just lots of fun at the Christmas dinner party.

WANT ADS

Please keep the editor informed about cars that may be for sale or have been sold

1950 Studebaker Starlight Coupe Champion. Fresh out of the barn, all original 1950 Studebaker, bullet nose, Starlight 2 door coupe, 6 cylinder,
 3 speed with overdrive, it is all there and ready for restoration or drive it like it is. 7758835959
James Garrison 620-704-4389 has 1948 Frazer $5,500, a 1929 Studebaker 55000 miles org. paint $10,000 and a 1958 Edsel $4,500

1958 Studebaker 1/2 ton pickup. Model 3E7 (Transtar) with 3 sp/OD and V-8. Recent restoration. Seen recently at Sagebrush Orphan Meet $7,500 OBO. Also, 1959 Studebaker Silver Hawk, AT and V-8. Older restoration. $7,500 OBO. Contact Lou Furgeson at (775)867-3030 (Fallon, NV) (Lou and Dolores have been long time supporters of Sagebrush and members of the Antique Auto Club chapter found in Fallon, NV)

40 year collection of Studebakers and parts. For information, email Tom Clayton in Ely, NV at 1pbft@mwpower.net They include the following cars: 1917 Series 18 ED6 Roadster; 1947-48 Studebaker M series trucks (total of 5); 1949 2R 1 ton pickup; 1951 4 dr Commander; 1952-3 Studebaker pickups (2); 1955 Studebaker E38 2 ton; 1956 Studebaker E28 2 ton; 1957 Packard Town Sedan; 1958 Scotsman Wagon; 1958 3E 1/2 ton PU; 1959 Lark V8 wagon; 1960 Lark V8 4 dr sedan; 1961 Lark V8 2 dr wagon; 1961 Lark 2 dr sedan with 6 cyl; 1961 Lark 2 dr HT with V8; 1961 Lark V8 4 dr sedan; 1962 Lark V8 4 dr sedan; 1963 Lark V8 Daytona wagon; 1963 Lark V8 Daytona Convertible; 1965 Cruiser V8 4 dr sedan. Some cars/trucks/parts have been sold. Call to see if your car/truck is still for sale.

Gary, Arts brother called about this - Art thought you might be interested, or you could put in newsletter.

//////////////////////new item/////////////////// 

$200 obo

'59 p.u. flat head 6 with 3 speed w/overdrive

plus box of other parts He is doing a rod job on p.u. 209-204-0666

Modesto, Calif.

Call Art if any questions or e-mail Art Van Dyke <carolandart@sbcglobal.net> .

EVENTS

Sagebrush Chapter Tours or Events.

Meetings (PLEASE NOTE THAT CLUB MEETING IS ON 3rd TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH)

Jan. 20^th, 2009 at North Carson Round Table Pizza

ITEMS of Interest

Interesting Web Sites!

Check our web site, www.sagebruchstudebaker.com

it is updated on a regular basis, showing great pictures

of past events (under the news letters) and info about upcoming events!

Go to www.kaiserbill.com , link on swap meet

and learn about all the neat stuff available, especially the wonderful museum cars for sale!

Try this site for the worst cars from 1899 to present: http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867,00.html

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/studebaker/

Sign the petition to have a Studebaker included in the

next Cars movie.

Re-printed from “The Echo” - Dec. 2008

SDCer and Studebaker Skytop enthusiast Paul Warta has a new web site for those interested in 1961-1963 and 1963 Cruisers

at www.studebakerskytop.com

Sagebrush Chapter of the Studebaker Drivers Club, Inc.

Located in Northern Nevada

MEMBERSHIP application:

The Sagebrush Chapter of the Studebaker Drivers Club Inc. is open to anyone who shares the love of Studebakers. Ownership of a Studebaker is not necessary to become a member; however, membership in the national organization is REQUIRED. Send check for $27.50 ($19.95 for new members for the first year) to S.D.C., Inc., P.O. Box 1715, Maple Grove, MN 55311-7615 or online at (http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com) for national dues and be sure to include source of referral and how many Studes owned. Sagebrush Chapter dues are $12.00 Please make checks payable to Sagebrush Chapter and send to Gary Crabtree , 24 sherley Ln., Yerington NV 89447.

Name ____________________________________________ Spouse ___________________________________________

Address _______________________________________________________________________________________________

Birthday (Month and Day) __________________________ Spouse’s Birthday _________________________________

Wedding Anniversary (Month, Day, Year) ____________________________ National SDC No. ____________________

Studebakers Owned

1.________________________________

2.________________________________

3.__________________________

Laughs for the sage.

From Jay Hubbard:

An armed hooded robber bursts into the Bank of Ireland and forces the tellers to load a sack full of cash. On his way out the door with the loot one brave Irish customer grabs the hood an pulls it off revealing the robber's face. The robber shoots the guy without hesitation! He then looks around the bank to see if anyone else has seen him. One of the tellers is looking straight at him and the robber shoots him also. Everyone by now is very scared and looking down at the floor. Did anyone else see my face?' calls the robber. There are a few moments silence, then one elderly Irish gent, looking down, tentatively raises his hand and says: 'I think me wife may have caught a glimpse....'

Gary Crabtree 775-463-3332

24 Shirley Ln.

Yerington NV 89447