Questions can be directed to Gary Crabtree at: E-mail.
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changed Oct 24th 2008
Grease for manual steering box:

The grease is a synthetic, aluminum complex grease originally designed to lubricate industrial gear boxes.

Chemically it compares favorably with Kendall C-999. Soap content is same, structure the same, no fillers, higher rating on Timken test, viscosity index the same, dropping point much higher, penetration unworked is  about the same.

Manual Steering box grease  Part/number 801651 Semi-Fluid Steering Box Greaseis an ultra tough,aluminum complex grease designed to lubricate manual steering boxes. Note: One 12 oz. bottle is generally enough to fill an empty steering box. It may also be used to top off a par-tially full box ..$19.95 each

order at Studebaker International INC.
97 North 150 West, Greenfield, IN 46140-8562    --OR--
For inquiries, please call our customer service at (317) 462-3124. ordering online You may now place an order with us via the internet, either by going to our website or sending us an e-mail. Our web page address is (http://www.studebaker-intl.com). Our e-mail address for orders and info is (info@studebaker-intl.com).We’ll usually respond by e-mail the next working day.

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Title, vin numbers for vehicles

There are two numbers used for the vin on a title: 1. The serial number that is in the cab of a truck under the seat in the step well. In a car the serial number will be on the drivers side door sill. 2. The engine number for trucks or cars may be the vin number  used on the title. Either number is OK as long as it matches the vein number on the title.

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6 to 12 volt conversion guide / information  - lastest change Sep 20th, 08

Randy Rundle has published an excellent booklet. The official 12 volt conversion guide. It thoroughly and safely convert 6 volt systems to 12 volts. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the topic to send Rany a check for $10.0 (includes postage) and ask for a copy.
Randy Rundle
Fifth avenue Antique Auto Parts
415 Court St.
Clay Center KS 67432

E-mail: Randy Rundle <fifthave@oz-online.net>,  phone785-632-3450
Randy also has a catalog of materials available that will help in the conversion.

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Alternator Swap
GM Wiring 

Updated 05-19-2006
On the back of the alternator is the battery lead wire. Usually a red insulator but not always, and on the SIDE of the case is a place for a 2 wire plastic plug. The plug leads are parallel with the edge of the case. IF you find an alternator with the 2 wire spades IN LINE with the fan, this is the older style WITHOUT the internal regulator. Where this thing plugs in cast on the case below the opening for the plug should be a number 1 and 2 below the respective terminals. Wire #1 goes to the key switch accessory terminal with a
(10 ohm 10 watt) in line resister ((if you have an old style key switch that does not have an accessory terminal you will need the Radio Shack part number 276-1661 diode to put in line with the #1 wire. It is installed with the stripe towards the alternator. This will allow the car to stop when your key is turned off)), this wire is HOT with the key in the RUN position, BUT NOT THE START POSITION. Wire #2 can be hooked directly to the big battery wire on the back of the case, but should be connected to the battery side of the starter solenoid if the wire run is from one side of the car to the other. (This is because if the alternator  output is high there will be a voltage drop of about 1 volt from the alternator to the battery starter solenoid terminal and the rest of the car components will not have the correct voltage during high charging rates). Wire #2 is a sense voltage source for the regulator. The idiot light is rather unique. the light is a small dash lamp bulb on a special plug in base. NORMAL lights require a ground and a hot wire. THIS LIGHT IS NOT GROUNDED, instead both leads are insulated from the car body. One side goes to the key switch, where it is fed 12 volts when the key is ON, and the other goes to #1 on the alternator. With the key ON and the engine not running, the light lights up, as there is a voltage difference between the 2 leads. AS the engine is running this wire has 12 volts across its entire length and the lamp goes out, as BOTH LEADS have the same voltage, when the alternator is charging. If the alternator quits charging, then this wire loses its voltage and the light comes one says I AIN'T WORKING, so you know something is wrong. Usually on the GM's the battery wire off the back of the alternator goes to the battery side terminal of the starter solenoid. There is an in line fuse here most often on the originals, consisting of a fusible link. Ditto for the headlights and the rest of the cars wiring needs. If you have an ammeter, make certain that the STARTER DRAW IS NOT PUT ACROSS THE TERMINALS OF THE AMMETER. The location of the ammeter can depend on what you want to know. There are 2 places to put it, which I won't get to here. A normal GM internal regulator alternator can have an output from 45-70 amps depending on several variables. By changing the internal windings and rotor it is possible to get 120-140 amps, but the life is shortened. You can also have a self excited alternator, by changing the regulator and then you have NO little wire plug to worry about, Just the big battery wire. Speaking of which, this battery wire MUST BE 10 gauge minimum and I like to solder the terminals on the end. I don't trust crimp connections. If you have to run this wire a long ways, then the wire MUST BE BIGGER. Delco manuals sometimes call for #1 wire sizes for some alternators and 3/0 for some starters, but you OUGHT TO SEE THE BATTERIES!!!The following is a picture of the wiring for the new alternator with old style key and new style key with an example of the original wiring found in most Studebaker Hawks or Larks. You will need to check your wiring diagram to make sure the wiring is the same as that show in the picture below.

wire example

 


Mopar

I know most are going to recommend the one-wire GM setup but I prefer the Mopar unit. If you start with the standard Stude V8 bracket on the exhaust manifold the front lug of the Mopar alternator bolts to the front of the Stude bracket and positions the belt alignment perfectly (assuming you use a single groove pulley). A piece of angle iron with one hole drilled in it is welded to the Stude bracket to make the support for the rear lug of the alternator. The early Mopars ('61-'69) used the same voltage regulator as the alternator equipped Studies. It's a simple two wire hookup. The '70 and later used a solid state regulator with three wires. The regulator can be mounted in the same location as the original Stude and most of the original wires used.

Alternator Model 10SI  61 amp. from 1984 chevy or 1971 international truck

            
         DESCRIPTION  
        
The alternator illustrated in Figs. 1 and 2 features a solid state regulator that is mounted inside the alternator slip ring end frame. All regulator components are enclosed into a solid mold, and this unit along with the brush holder assembly is attached to the slip ring end frame. The regulator voltage setting never needs adjusting, and no provision for adjustment is made.

The alternator rotor bearings contain a supply of lubricant sufficiently adequate to eliminate the need for periodic lubrication. Two brushes carry current through the two slip rings to the field coil mounted on the rotor and under normal conditions will provide long periods of attention-free service.

The stator windings are assembled on the inside of a laminated core that forms part of the alternator frame. A rectifier bridge connected to the stator windings contains six diodes and electrically changes the stator A. C. voltages to a D. C. voltage which appears at the alternator output terminal. Alternator field current is supplied through a diode trio which also is connected to the stator windings. A capacitor, or condenser, mounted in the end frame protects the rectifier bridge and diode trio from high voltages and suppresses radio noise.

No periodic adjustments or maintenance of any kind are required on the entire alternator assembly.
alternator diagram 1

OPERATION

Updated 05-19-2006
A typical wiring diagram is illustrated in Fig. 3. The basic operating principles are explained as follows. To excite or start the alternator the switch is closed, current from the battery flows through the ammeter and resistor (10 ohm 10 watt)  to the alternator No. 1 terminal, through resistor R1, diode Dl, and the base emitter of transistor TR1 to ground, and then back to the battery. This turns on transistor TR1 and current flows through the alternator field coil and TR1 back to the battery.

With the alternator operating, A.C. voltages are generated in the stator windings, and the stator supplies D. C. field current through the diode trio, the field, TR1, and then through the grounded diodes in the rectifier bridge back to the stator. Also, the six diodes in the rectifier bridge change the stator A. C. voltages to a D. C. voltage which appears between ground and the alternator 'BAT' terminal. As alternator speed increases, current is provided for charging the energizer and operating electrical accessories. Also, with the alternator operating, the same voltage appears at the 'BAT' and No. 1 terminals, and the ammeter gauge goes out to indicate the alternator is producing a charge for the battery.

The No. 2 terminal on the alternator is always connected to the battery. but the discharge current is limited to a negligible value by the high resistances of R2 and R3. As the alternator speed and voltage increase, the voltage between R2 and R3 increases to the point where zener diode D2 conducts. Transistor TR2 then turns on and TR1 turns off. With TR1 off, the field current and system voltage decrease, and D2 then blocks current flow, causing TR1 to turn back on. The field current and system voltage increase, and this cycle then repeats many times per second to limit the alternator voltage to a preset value.

Capacitor Cl smooths out the voltage across R3, resistor R4 prevents excessive current through TR1 at high temperatures, and diode D3 prevents high induced voltages in the field windings when TR1 turns off. Resistor R2 is a thermistor, which causes the regulated voltage to vary with temperature, thus providing the optimum voltage for charging the battery.
alternator diagram 2

TROUBLESHOOTING

In order to locate and correct defects in the charging system in the shortest possible time, the following procedures should be used. Only a portion of these procedures need be performed. It will never be necessary to perform all the procedures in order to locate the trouble.

To avoid damage to the electrical equipment, always observe the following precautions:

Do not polarize the alternator.

Do not short across or ground any of the terminals in the charging circuit. Never operate the alternator with the output terminal open circuited.

Make sure the alternator and battery have the same ground polarity.

When connecting a charger or a booster battery to the vehicle battery, connect negative to negative and positive to positive.

Trouble in the charging system will show up as one or more of the following conditions:

An undercharged battery as evidenced by slow cranking and low specific gravity readings.

An overcharged battery, as evidenced by excessive water usage.

         Undercharged Battery
        
           This condition, as evidenced by slow cranking and low specific gravity readings, can be caused by one or more of the following conditions
        
1. Insure that the undercharged condition has not been caused by accessories having been left on for extended periods.
        
2. Check the drive belt for proper tens ton.
       
3. Inspect the wiring for defects. Check all connections for tightness and cleanliness, including the slip connectors at the alternator tor and firewall and the cable clamps and battery posts.
        
4. With ignition switch on and all wiring harness leads connected, connect a voltmeter from:
        
a. Alternator "BAT" terminal to ground.
        
b. Alternator No. 1 terminal to ground,
        
c. Alternator No. 2 terminal to ground.


A zero reading indicates an open between voltmeter connection and battery. Opens in the wiring harness connected between the No. 2 alternator terminal and battery may be be tween the terminals, at the crimp between the harness wire and terminal, or in the wire.
        
5. If previous Steps 1 through 4 check satisfactorily, check alternator as follows:
        
a. Disconnect battery ground cable.
        
b. Connect an ammeter in the circuit at the "BAT" terminal of the alternator,

c. Reconnect battery ground cable.
        
d. Turn on radio, windshield wipers, lights high beam and blower motor high speed. Connect a carbon pile across the battery.
        
e. Operate engine at moderate speed as re quired and adjust carbon pile as required to obtain maximum current output.
        
f. If ampere output is within 10 percent of rated output as stamped on alternator frame, alternator is not defective; re check Steps 1 through 5.
        
g. If ampere output is not within 10 percent of rated output, ground the field winding by inserting a screwdriver into the test hole, Fig. 4. NOTE: Tab is within 3/4" of casting surface. Do not force screw driver deeper than 1" into end frame.
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h. Operate engine at moderate speed as required and adjust carbon pile as required to obtain maximum current output.
        
i. If output is within 10 percent of rated output, replace regulator and check field winding.
        
j. If output is not within 10 percent of rated output, check the field winding, diode trio, rectifier bridge and stator.
        
k. Remove ammeter from alternator and turn accessories off.
        
         Overcharged Battery
        
1. Connect a voltmeter from alternator No. 2 terminal to ground. If reading is zero, No. 2 lead circuit is open.
 
2. If battery and No. 2 lead circuit check good but an obvious overcharge condition exists, as evidenced by excessive battery water usage, proceed as follows:
        
a, Separate end frames. Check field winding for shorts. If shorted, replace rotor and regulator.
        
b. Connect ohmmeter using lowest range scale from brush lead clip to end frame as shown in Step 1, Fig. 5, then reverse lead connections.
        
c. If both readings are zero, either the brush lead clip is grounded or regulator is defective.

fig 5

d. A grounded brush lead clip can result from omission of insulating washer, Fig.5, omission of insulating sleeve over screw, or damaged insulating sleeve. Remove screw to inspect sleeve. If satisfactory, replace regulator.
        
        DISASSEMBLY
        
To disassemble the alternator, remove the four thru- bolts and separate the drive end frame and rotor assembly from the stator assembly by prying apart with a screwdriver at the stator slot. A scribe mark will help locate the parts in the same position during assembly. After disassembly place a piece of tape over the slip ring end frame bearing to prevent entry of dirt and other foreign material and also place a piece of tape over the shaft on the slip ring end. NOTE: Use pressure- sensitive tape and not friction tape, which would leave a gum my deposit on the shaft. If brushes are to be reused, clean with a soft, dry cloth.
        
To remove the drive end frame from the rotor, place the rotor in a vise and tighten only enough to permit removal of the shaft nut.
NOTE: Avoid excessive tightening, as this may cause distortion of the rotor. Remove the shaft nut, washer, pulley, fan, and the collar; and then separate the drive end frame from the rotor shaft.
        
         Rotor Field Winding Checks
        
To check for opens, connect the test lamp or ohmmeter to each slip ring. If the lamp fails to light or if the ohmmeter reading is high (infinite), the winding is open, Fig. 6.

fig 6

The winding is checked for short circuits or excessive resistance by connecting a battery and ammeter in series with the edges of the two slip rings. Note the ammeter reading and refer to specifications. An ammeter reading above the specified value indicates shorted windings; a reading below the specified value indicates excessive resistance. An alternate method is to check the resistance of the field by connecting an ohmmeter to the two slip rings, Fig. 6. If the resistance reading is below the specified value, the winding is shorted; if above the specified value, the winding has excessive resistance. The specified resistance value can be determined by dividing the voltage by the current. Remember that the winding resistance and ammeter readings will vary slightly with winding temperature changes. If the rotor is not defective but the alternator fails to supply rated output, the defect is in the diode trio, rectifier bridge or stator.
        
         Diode Trio Check
        
The diode trio is identified in Fig. 5. First connect an ohmmeter using lowest range scale from brush lead clip to end frame as shown in Step 2, Fig. 5; then reverse lead connections. If both readings are the same, check for grounded brush lead clip caused by omission of insulating washer, Fig. 5, omission of insulating sleeve over screw, or damaged insulating sleeve. Remove screw to inspect sleeve. if screw assembly is correct and both ohm-meter readings are the same, replace regulator.

To check the diode trio, remove it from the end frame assembly by detaching the three nuts, the attaching screw, and removing the stator assembly. Note that the insulating washer on the screw is assembled over the top of  the diode trio connector. Connect an ohmmeter having a 1-1/2 volt cell, and using the lowest range scale, to the single connector and to one of the three connectors, Fig. 7. Observe the reading. Then reverse the ohmmeter leads to the same two connectors. If both readings are the same, replace the diode trio. A good diode trio will give one high and one low reading. Repeat this same test between the single connector and each of the other two connectors.

fig 7

NOTE: Figs. 5 and 7 illustrate two diode trios differing in appearance. Either one of these diode trios may be used in these alternators, and the two are completely interchangeable.
       
         Rectifier Bridge Check
        
Note that the rectifier bridge has a grounded heat sink and an insulated heat sink connected to the output terminal. Also note the insulating washer located between the insulated heat sink and end frame, Fig. 8.

fig 8

To check the rectifier bridge, connect the ohmmeter to the grounded heat sink and one of  the three terminals, Fig. 8. Then reverse the lead connections to the grounded heat sink and same terminal. If both readings are the same, replace the rectifier bridge. A good rectifier bridge will give one high and one low reading. Repeat this same test between the grounded heat sink and the other two terminals and between the insulated heat sink and each of the three terminals. This makes a total of six checks with two readings taken for each check.
NOTE: If rectifier bridge is constructed as shown in Fig. 9, check with the rectifier bridge mounted in the end frame in the same manner as Fig. 8-- except connect ohmmeter pressing down very firmly onto flat metal connector and not onto threaded stud, Fig. 9.
        
The ohmmeter check of the rectifier bridge and of the diode trio is a valid and accurate check. Do not replace either unit unless at least one pair of readings is the same. CAUTION: Do not use high voltage to check these units, such as a 110-volt test lamp.

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Fig. 9 Rectifier Bridge Check
        
To replace the rectifier bridge, remove the attaching screw and the "BAT" terminal screw and disconnect the capacitor lead. Note the insulator between the insulated heat sink and end frame, Fig. 8. Rectifier bridges may vary in appearance but are completely interchangeable in these alternators.
        
         Stator Check
        
        
The stator windings may be checked with a 110-volt test lamp or an ohmmeter. If the lamp lights or if the meter reading is low when connected from any stator lead to the frame, the windings are grounded. If the lamp fails to light or if the meter reading is high when successively connected between each pair of stator leads, the windings are open, Fig. 10.
        
A short circuit in the stator windings is difficult to locate without laboratory test equipment, due to the low resistance of the windings. However, if all other electrical checks are normal and the alternator fails to supply rated output, shorted stator windings are indicated. Also, a shorted stator can cause the indicator lamp to be on with the engine at low speed.
        
        
         Brush Holder and Regulator Replacement
        
        
After removing the three attaching nuts, the stator and diode trio screw, Fig. 8, the brush holder and regulator may be replaced by removing the two remaining screws. Note the two insulators located over the top of the brush clips in Fig. 5 and that these two screws have special insulating sleeves over the screw body above the threads. The third mounting screw  may or may not have an insulating sleeve, if  not, this screw must not be interchanged with either one of the other two screws, as aground  may result causing no output or uncontrolled alternator output. Regulators may vary in appearance but are completely interchangeable in these alternators.

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       Fig. 10 Stator Windings Check
 
         Slip Ring Servicing
        
If the slip rings are dirty, they may be cleaned and finished with 400 grain or finer polishing cloth. Spin the rotor and hold the polishing cloth against the slip rings until they are clean. NOTE: The rotor must be rotated in order that the slip rings will be cleaned evenly. Cleaning the slip rings by hand without spinning the rotor may result in flat spots on the slip rings causing brush noise.
        
Slip rings which are rough or out of round should be trued in a lathe to . 002 inch maximum indicator reading. Remove only enough material to make the rings smooth and round. Finish with 400 grain or finer polishing cloth and blow away all dust.
        
         Bearing Removal and Lubrication
        
The bearing in the drive end frame can be removed by removing the retainer plate screws and then pressing the bearing from the end frame. If the bearing is in satisfactory condition, it may be reused, and it should be filled  one- quarter full with Delco- Remy lubricant No. 1948791 before reassembly. NOTE: Do not overfill, as this may cause the bearing to overheat. Use only 1948791 lubricant.
        
         Bearing Installation       

To install a new bearing, press in with a tube or collar that just fits over the outer race with the bearing and slinger assembled into the end frame as shown in Fig. 11. It is recommended that a new retainer plate be installed if the felt seal in the retainer plate is hardened or excessively worn. Fill the cavity between the retainer plate and bearing with 1948791 lubricant.

fig 11

Fig. 11  Drive End Bearing (Flat Washer
             May Be Used Instead of Slinger)
        
The bearing in the slip ring end frame should be replaced if its grease supply is exhausted. No attempt should be made to re lubricate and reuse the bearing. To remove the bearing from the slip ring end frame, press out with a tube or collar that just fits inside the end frame housing. Press from the outside of the housing towards the inside.      

To install a new bearing, place a flat plate over the bearing and press in from the outside towards the inside of the frame until the bearing is flush with the outside of the end frame. Support the inside of the frame with a hollow cylinder to prevent breakage of the end frame. Use extreme care to avoid misalignment or otherwise placing undue stress on the bearing.      

It is recommended that a new seal be installed whenever the bearing is replaced. Press the seal in with the lip of the seal toward the rotor when assembled--that is, away from the bearing. Lightly coat the seal lip with oil to facilitate assembly of the shaft into the bearing.
        
         REASSEMBLY
        
Reassembly is the reverse of disassembly. To install the slip ring end frame assembly to  the rotor and drive end frame assembly, remove the tape over the bearing and shaft and make sure the shaft is perfectly clean after removing the tape. Insert a pin through the holes to hold up the brushes. Carefully install the shaft into the slip ring end frame assembly to avoid damage to the seal. After tightening the thru-bolts, remove the brush retaining pin to allow the brushes to fall down onto the slip rings. When installing the pulley, the pulley nut must be torqued to 60 ft.lbs. If not properly tightened, it is possible that the nut and pulley could loosen and slip on the shaft.
      
To assist in tightening the pulley nut, a 5/16 inch hex hole is provided in the end of the shaft for holding with an Allen wrench. Also a special 15/16 inch socket wrench, Fig. 12, which is applicable to the nut is available from the Snap-On Tool Company. This special 1/2 inch drive socket wrench is designed with a cutout to receive the Allen wrench and may be used in conjunction with a torque indicating wrench. Where desired, a length of 3/8 inch pipe may be applied to the Allen wrench to provide additional leverage for the holding effort.
        
The special 15/16 inch socket wrench, Fig.12, is available from your local Snap-On representative under their number S-8183.

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Fig. 12 Torquing Pulley Nut
 
         Alternator Bench Check
       
To check the alternator in a test stand, proceed as follows:
        
        
1. Make connections as shown in Fig. 13, except leave the carbon pile disconnected. NOTE: Ground polarity of battery and alternator must be the same. Use a fully charged battery and a 10 ohm resistor rated at six watts or more between the alternator No. 1 terminal and the battery.
        
2. Slowly increase the alternator speed and observe the voltage.

3. If the voltage is uncontrolled with speed and increases above 15.5 volts on a 12-volt system or 31 volts on a 24-volt system, check for a grounded brush lead clip. If not grounded, replace the regulator and check field winding. NOTE: The battery must be fully charged when making this check.

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Fig. 13 Connections for Bench Check
        
        
4. If voltage is below 15. 5 volts on a 12-volt system, connect the carbon pile as shown.
      
5. Operate the alternator at moderate speed as required and adjust the carbon pile as required to obtain maximum current output.
        
        
6. If output is within 10 percent of rated output as stamped on alternator frame, alternator is good.
        
        
7. If output is not within 10 percent of rated output, keep energizer or battery loaded with carbon pile and ground alternator field, Fig. 13.
        
        
8. Operate alternator at moderate speed and adjust carbon pile as required to obtain maximum output.
        
        
9. If output is within 10 percent of rated output, replace regulator and check field winding.
        
        
10. If output is not within 10 percent of rated output, check the field winding, diode trio, rectifier bridge and stator as previously covered.

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What might cause a vibration or miss in a 259 / 289 v-08  in a pickup that has been rebuilt with all parts new except the camshaft. The vibration can be felt in both the cab and steering wheel. A new second 259 engine was put in the pickup with a new clutch and flywheel but the vibration was still in the truck?

1.  The engine mounts can cause this type problem if they are installed without the steel Sleeves on the bolts, because the bolts can be over tightened which will squash the rubber portion of the mounts and the vibration will be transferred to the frame. Also check external parts like the exhaust pipe or clutch linkage rubbing on the frame.  2.  Loosen (or remove) the fan belt and run the engine to see if the vibration goes away with the water pump and generator / alternator not rotating.  3.  A bad distributor or carburetor can cause a vibration. 4.  Check the spark plug wire routing: When you route the wires on the left side, do not run #5 and #7 together or a spark may be induced in #7 when #5 fires. That can cause the incoming charge in #7 to ignite early. The 259 and 289 v-8's both have a firing order of 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 with the cylinders numbered from the front of the engine left side (drivers side) 1, 3, 5, 7 and right side 2. 4. 6. 8. As you can see the firing order will fire #5 then #7 and that is the reason for the special routing of the #5 and #7 ignition wires.  5.  Make sure the valves are not too tight. Set the intake to .025 and the exhaust to .027, I do not prefer setting them with the engine idling. 6.  Slightly retarded cam or ignition timing will not induce a vibration, although advanced ignition timing might. After the valves are adjusted the compression should be checked to be sure all cylinders are reasonably equal and then check the timing to insure it is set to IGN with the engine warm and at idle: 500 RPM or so. 7.  Check the vibration dampener on the front of the crankshaft to make sure it is not installed backwards. The holes are offset to prevent this, but they aren't offset so much that a person couldn't distort the rubber cushions and install it backwards. The engine mounts on trucks hold the engines more firmly than passenger cars, so dodge pickup truck mounts can be adapted to the Studebakers and give the truck a little smoother feel.

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What can cause a 1953 commander 232 v-8 engine to vapor lock or stall at low speed?

The early v-8s with their high-mounted fuel pumps and six-volt electrics offer the greatest challenge for restarting a hot engine. 1. The ignition system needs to be checked to make sure it is providing spark to the plugs when the engine won't restart before looking at the fuel system. 2. Vapor lock occurs when the fuel begins to vaporize before it is actually distributed by the carburetor, usually because it has been overheated somehow. Try to cool everything down. Start by installing an insulator block or stack of base gaskets under the carburetor. Thickness is limited by hood clearance, but even a little bit helps. 3. Make sure the fuel lines aren't touching hot parts of the engine, and wrap them with strips of that shiny metal duct tape or fiberglass tape. Try running a flex hose from behind or under the grill directly to the air cleaner. 4. Check the heat riser valve at the outlet of the right exhaust manifold. The weight should be resting in the up position when the engine is cold and in the down position when the engine is at operating temperature.If it is not operating correctly It will continue to force hot exhaust gases through the intake manifold passage under the carburetor and cause the fuel to percolate in the carburetor. it will need to be replaced. 5. Coolant being expelled through the radiator overflow tube during idling indicates that cooling system maintenance is needed. Install a 160 degree thermostat and check the radiator cap to make sure it will hold 7 PSI. If the engine temperature seems to run above the normal range, have the radiator cleaned and tested Proper coolant level for vehicles without a coolant recovery tank is an inch or two below the filler neck. 6. Remove the three soft plugs (also called freeze plugs) on both sides of the engine block. Clean out the block internally through those holes using hand digging with strong bent wires and high pressure washing. Bent coat hangers work fine for this digging. 7.  Make sure the radiator fan shroud is  in place for proper cooling.  8. Try premium gasoline or diluting the gasoline with diesel in a ratio of about 1 to 15. 9. Finally, test the fuel pump per the shop manual. Fuel pumps that do not pass all three tests (pressure, vacuum, volume) will contribute to vapor lock.  Also check the fuel pump push rod for wear, or binding / interference from any oil line fittings that tap into the stand pipe on which the pump is mounted. If you still feel a need to make modifications see the item below for adding a return line to vent vaporized fuel.

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What might be suggested to cure the chronic vapor lock on a 1964 cruiser with air conditioning?

Plum the car like a Jet-Thrust powered car. Drop the fuel tank and have a 1/8-27NPT bung soldered to the upper left corner.  Screw a 1/4" hose fitting into the bung. This would be a good time to change the filler neck and fuel line hoses to new ones that are compatible with today's oxygenated fuel. Check the tank for leaks or weak areas and have it treated / repaired as necessary. Then reinstall the tank.Run a 1/4" steel line on the left side of the frame, mirroring the fuel line along the right side. Bring the line up next to the fuel line going to the carburetor from the pump. Install a fuel filter that has a return fitting coming out the side, the type used on many Chrysler and Jeep products in the late 70's and early 80's.  (See note that follows) Use a short piece of 1/4" fuel rated hose to connect that "vapor-side" fitting to your newly installed return line. Take a piece of 3/8" rubber fuel hose and slit it length wise with knife. Slip that slit hose over the steel line from the pump to the carburetor and secure it with some small wire ties. That should cure your vapor lock problem.

NOTE: There are 4 applicable NAPA in line fuel filters with 5/16" fuel line tubes in and out with a 1/4" vapor return port: NAPA numbers are 3040, 3054, 3082, and 3086. The difference among these filters is the position of the vapor return port, so pick one that will fit your vapor return line connection as you have configured it on the car.  For high performance cars, NAPA filter #3041 has a 3/8" tube in and out.  It is strongly recommended to use an all steel line from the fuel pump all the way to the carburetor. Current technology fuel hose should be used only to connect the steel line to the fuel filter.

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Can an Electric fuel pump be added to Studebakers?

There is a complete write up on electric fuel pumps in the June 2000 Turning Wheels which will be added later. There is a new 6 volt electric fuel pump from Airtex Model #E8011 about $92. This pump can be used for either positive or negative grounds. The pump itself must be electrically isolated from its mounting bracket, so it will work on the positive or negative grounds. Persons with 6 volt systems formerly had to choose between Rotary Vane or Bellows Type electric pumps.  The Rotary Vane pump will not allow the stock mechanical pump to pull fuel through if one wants to shut off the electric pump for any reason once the engine is running. The Bellows pump will allow the mechanical pumps to pull  through if desired, but there are serious reliability problems with this pump. The Airtex is a good alternative.

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Should I be concerned about wheel failure on my Studebaker that is 30 years and older? Can I tell if the wheels are original?

About the only way to tell if the wheels are original is to compaaare them with an original picture, that I have included below 

original tire

Note the secondary ring just outside the nuts. There are "nubs" on that ring over which small hub caps would be snapped onto. Wheel failure is a possibility any time a radial tire is used on a wheel that was not designed or approved for radial tire use. It might not be common, but it is still a possibility. The possibility increases when you use a tire that is too wide for a given wheel. The RMA (Rubber Manufacturers Association) and the NWRA (National Wheel and Rim Association) recommend that 205 and 215 tires be mounted on wheels from 5 1/2 to 6 1/2" wide; 225 tires should be mounted on wheels from 6 to 8" wide. The Cooper Lifeliner Classic P215/70r15 is engineered for a wheel between 5 1/2 to 7" wide. That tire's 26.78" outside diameter is slightly smaller that the original 6.70X15 tires that came on the cars.

Many wheels from both Ford and Chrysler rear-wheel-rive applications in the late 70s through early 80s will work fine, but you must pay attention to dimensions. Wheels you are looking for have a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. Use the 5 lug pattern from the picture below to mesure your wheels with a 4" backspace.

wheel mesurement

Back space is measured by placing a straight edge across the back of the wheel/rim and measuring into the mounting face. I recently took a set of wheels from a 1984 Lincoln and found them to be 15X6 1/2" with a 4" back space. They would fit your Studebaker. In any case, check fender clearance thoroughly and carefully on an Studebaker. Remember to allow for suspension travel and turning radius with the car loaded; Just because there appears to be enough clearance sitting stationary with no one in it doesn't mean there will be clearance loaded and underway. Rubbing a tire on a fender will cause damage. If you use Ford wheels, you must change to 13/16" lug nuts as well. Studebaker 3/4" lug nuts will easily pull through a Ford wheel. Don't forget to change your lug wrench, or keep a 4-way in the trunk, when you change lug nut sizes.The wheel covers will fit either Ford or Chrysler applicable wheels just fine. Good luck.

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Rear axle end play adjustments and how it works.
back plate off


If you look at the center of the above picture the horizontal thrust block can be seen, it is between the side bevel gears and around the shaft that supports the differential pinion gears at the top and bottom of the differential case. The thrust block stops the axles at the correct distance into the side bevel gears so the bearings at the end of each axle will have the correct end play. The left side axle (drivers side) must  have zero clearance from the thrust block to the outside race on the bearing at the end of the axle (drivers side). The right side axle will have from .001 to .006 clearance that is controlled by shims between the end of the axle housing and the brake backing plate. The clearance is on the right side axle (passenger side) so any force placed on the ring gear differential case will try to force the ring gear to the right and not to the left. This is because the ring gear is set with .003 clearance to the left of the pinion and any more clearance would put excess pressure on the teeth of the ring and pinion gears.
diff exploded
This is the differential and rear axle exploded view. In the above paragraph items  20 (differential case), 16 (pinion), 22 (ring gear), 24 (side bevel gears), 26 (differential pinion), 27 (shaft), 31 (thrust block), 32 (axle)  were discussed.

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Electronic ignition replacing the points with Crane products, for Prestolite distributor. Go to <summitracing.com>  and search for Crane Cams and order the XR700 part number crn-700-0231 FireBall points conversion ignition kit, and from Pertronix buy the Flame-Thrower coil part number pnx-40011.  Now you are ready to convert your Studebaker from points to  pointless electronic ignition. The first step will be to fine the number 1 plug on the car and to check the engine to see that the timing marks on the crank shaft line up on the timing marks and that the rotor on the distributor lines up with the number 1 spark plug wire. I put a dot of white paint next to  the number 1 spark plug wire and took the distributor cap off to see for sure the rotor was lined up with the number 1 wire.  For the Prestolite distributor on a v8 the thin walled shutter is used. The thin walled shutter will mis the post where the existing points are mounted. The shutter has no metal tabs to press tight agents the cam lobs so take thin aluminum (about .005, most hardware stores will carry this type aluminum in a roll about 12 inches wide and 2 or 3 ft long.) and cut four T shaped peaces and slip them  in four of the slots next to the inside cam lobs on the shutter. There is a slot by each cam lobe. You can put some contact glue on each T shaped peace to hold them in position.You will use the FireBall XR700 instructions to replace the points and add the electronic ignition box and the new Flame-Thrower coil. The first step is to remove the distributor cap and the rotor from inside the distributor. Now you are ready to remove the points and condenser from the distributor. By using the thin shutter for you v8, the post that the points are mounted to   will not will not   need to be cut off  the distributor plate. If the electronic box would ever fail then the points could be placed back on the distributor plate the you would be up and running. This is a nice backup. OK now with the points and condenser removed you are ready to put in the trigger and shutter for the electronic ignition. You will follow the Universal 4-6-8 cylinder distributor adjustable bracket kit to install the trigger and shutter. With the engine still set to the timing mark the distributor will also still be set on the number one plug wire you can set up the trigger to fire at this phisical location and your car will be timed correctly. When you install the trigger and shutter rout the wires so they do not come in contact with the rotor or the shutter. I mounted the electronics box on the fender on the passenger side of my HAWK, as there are two bolts that hold a brace on the underside of the fender. I made a bracket that mounted to the two bolts and i use 4 screws to mount the box to the bracket. The length of the wires on the box will go from the box to the firewall and then back to the coil that is mounted on the back of the intake manifold. Your old coil can be replace with the new Flame-Thrower and you will be ready to set the trigger to the correct timing. There is a LED on the electronic box that will come on when the trigger is set to the correct place. There are very good instructions in the FireBall installation manual. The trigger can be mounted any place on the distrbutor plate as the engine is still set to the correct timing marks from the work already done.   The XR700 installation instructions are very good, If you have questions e-mail me at the address at the top of this list.

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Throttle return spring breakage: If this spring would brake with the car in gear the driver could lose control and cause big damage. Remove the spring and look at each end for any ware or if the spring has any rust it should be replaced. That will assure the throttle does not go wide open when the driver is not expecting a fast take off.

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Can the rear drums be removed from the hubs so the break lines and cylinders can be services with out pulling the hub? If you are going to use my method for the rear axle drum and hub i should tell you the steps i go through. You should go to this site
http://www.goodson.com/store/template/product_detail.php?IID=123 and get the mill to remove the studs from the hub It will make the job much easy-er, I used a small cutting wheel on a drill to re moved the excess swaging from the stud before removing the drum. The mill will give a much better and cleaner job and will not bed the drum center face and my original method did. How to remove the drum from the hub:
1:) Get a mill from the web site above for the size of your studs and cut away the swaging from the stud, make sure not to cut the surface of the drum. If you do not have a mill a 1 to 2 inch cutting wheel can be used in a hand drill. In either case b very careful not to damage the threads on the studs.
2:) Use a thin screw driver to lift the center of the drum face so a large square shank-ed screw drive can be inserted between the center drum face and the hub. Drive the square shank ed screw driver in on each side of each stud and then use a wench on the square shank to turn the screw driver to lift the drum face up and off of the stud. You must work around the hub on each stud so you and lifting the hub off the studs evenly. This process will bend the center face of the drum but we will fix this in the next step. Before the drum is removed from the hub put some paint ( white ) on the drum and one stud. This will leave the drum on the hub in the same location as original and the center plain and any balancing will be correct.
3:) With the drum off the hub use an old flanged axle from another car is used to flatten the center of the drum using a large hammer. The drum is now ready to have the final step done before putting it back on the hub.
4:) Use a square file to remove any burs from the base of each stud on the hub. Now use a round file to remove any burs from each stud hole in the drum so it will go back on the hub without any interference, but not loose. With the drum in place the rim with tire can be mounted on the studs and the nuts replaced. This will hold the drum in place and will as the rum and the next time you need to inspect or do any maintenance the hub will not need to be pulled. The tire can be removed and that will allow the drum to be removed as well.

I think this will give you a better idea of what and how i did the job on my 62 GT Hawk and 63 Cruiser. The brakes on both are the same as when the drums were swaged. The axles on both are 44's 


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Adding an Electric fuel pump is a safety concern for older cars and trucks. If you want to add the fuel pump then a roll-over inertia switch should be added.
One like used in the late model Ford products can be used. It is easy to install and will stop the fuel pump in the event of an accident. The Car Quest auto parts number for the switch is (6l5z9341a and the 3 wire connector is 96-7552). I would consider such a switch a "MUST" when installing an electric fuel pump. The Ford switch has a manual reset, so they can be reset if activated by a bump or some other minor disturbance. When installing the switch make sure the switch is level and mounted in a vertical position. The car / truck should be level also to have correct operation.  Mount the switch so you would have easy accesse if it is tripped. Most Ford produts so equipped have the access port in the trunk or passenger side pannel just in front of the door interior where the switch control may be accessed if a reset is required. The switch has a normally open side so that wire can be used to turn on a light on the dash so the driver will know if the switch is tripped and needs to be reset.


inertia switch

Make sure to mount the inertia switch in a vertical position on a solid part of the body of the car or truck. Put it in a place where it will be protected from water and other road material.

diagram

The image above and in the link below have been changed 6-20-07
The fuel tank unit in the middle left side of the above electrical diagram is the fuel pump, and the inertia switch just to the right of the fuel pump. The normally open contact of the inertia switch is not used in the diagram. I included a hand written diagram of a simple connection that can be used on an older truck or car. The normally open contact (3) of the inertia switch can be used to turn on a small 12 / 6 volt light on the dash so the driver will know if the inertia switch has opened and need to be reset before the car or truck will start. The link below will open a page with a large electric diagram that is shown above so you will be able to read it with out a magnifying glass, but the load time for the large diagram is long so be ready for a wait before printing.Make sure the inertia switch is in series with the fuel pump and on the hot or 12/6 volt side as show in the above diagram. The inertia switch has to open the hot lead going to the fuel bump to stop it during an accident.

link to print large electric diagram



Changing Oil Formulations

We have long recommended C-rated (Compression Ignition) diesel-engine motor oil for contemporary use in Studebaker Engines. Modern S-rated (Spark Ignition) motor oil is formulated for today's passenger car and light truck engines having roller lifters and catalytic converters. Oil companies removed the zinc compounds needed by our older engines with higher-friction, so-called flat-top valve lifters and associated camshafts because those compounds shorten catalytic converter life.
Diesel-engine oils retained a higher level of zinc compound, but times are changing. More stringent diesel emissions requirements and subsequent diesel technology have resulted in a new CJ-4, API (American Petroleum Institute) diesel oil formulation. This designation is in addition to, and will probably ultimately replace, the older CI-4 and CI-4 plus ratings. CJ-4 rated oil contains only a trace of the needed zinc compound for our older engines and we do not recommend it for them. Common brands of C-rated oil (either rating) include Shell Rotella-t, Mobil Delvac, Chevron Delo-400, Kendall GT-1 Diesel Motor Oil, Car Quest CQO-CQ645 Fleet Plus 15W-40W, and Castrol Tection Extra. We are not recommending those brands as there are others just as good as long as the rating is CI-4 or CI-4 plus. As of April 12, 2007 I've seen both CI-4 and CJ-4 formulations next to each other on the shelves with the same brand name! Be certain to read the information in the little API circle logo on the back of the bottle or jug of the prefered brand. Look for oil without the new CJ-4 rating. We will keep you informed of these changes as they occur.

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SDCer Kieth Ogden reported a dead short on a 1964 champ pickup. When the battery was reconnected after winter storage the battery was drained in just one day. The problem was a short in the brake light switch on the firewall mounted master cylinder. The switch had shorted to ground internally over the winter. When investigating this always-hot (unfused, unswitched) circuit, the positive wire to the switch was so hot it could not be touched. The heat from the internal short had slightly melted the insulation from both terminal boots. Keith's experience again underscores our continuing campaign to encourage, at the least, disconnecting batteries from vehicles in storage. Even more to the point would be adding a major fusible link between the wiring harness and the stud on the side of the starter solenoid, the stud from which current is drawn to power all of the vehicle's electrical system except the starter motor itself.
The way to protect your vehicle's wiring harness it to install a 10-gauge feed wire and a 14-gauge fusible link.

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 Member James S. Davis, an architect from San Antonio TX, has taken the problem of converting a Studebaker from 6 volts to 12 volts in hand and been kin enough to send the following article detailing such a conversion. He adds that anyone who wants to should feel free to write him about this project. His address:
James S. Davis
5719 Kenwick
San Antonio -TX -78238

I don't suggest anyone making this conversion unless they feel it necessary. I'm a bit of a purist. Just the same I have seen to many jerry rigged cars and a few that I would not want to get into for fear of fire and thought this might keep a few Studes running that otherwise might be junked or burned.
If you see any errors, feel free to correct them. I tried to catch all of the loose ends, but no one is perfect.
Any questions I can answer please feel free to contact me. J. S. D.

The following are my experiences in converting a 1955 commander from 6 volts to 12 volts. The same process should apply to any pre 1956 6 volt Studebaker model.

First of all to avoid legal problems and criticism 2 point need to be made. Before beginning any work based on the information I am about to provide the accuracy and applicability should be verified with someone knowledgeable in such manners. Secondly, the 6 volt system as originally installed in pre 1956 Studebaker's was very adequate. I do not recommend altering it with out good reason. In my case I drive my Studebaker daily and on many log trips. The 12 volt system has allowed me to be able to easily locate electrical parts should they fail on the road. It has also allowed me to install a 1957 vintage after market trunk mount air conditioning unit.

For the project to be really useful it will also be necessary to change from positive to negative ground. During this discussion existing negative post or wire refers to that connection that was negative during the original configuration.

If you do not convert to negative ground modern accessories can not be used and the 1956 fan motor may run backward unless rewired. If you follow these directions when you are finished all systems will operate on 12 volts and will be negative ground.

Step 1: DISCONNECT THE BATTERY

GENERATOR: Replace with 12 volt generator as used on 1956 model, or replace with a modified alternator as is sold by the Western Lake Erie chapter of SDC or use a 10si as listed in the (alternator swap GM wiring)  as listed in this data base. I would strongly suggest using the alternator if you are contemplating adding air conditioning or any other large accessories. Installation is simple, does not alter the existing wiring and is fully explained in the instructions that come with it. Replace the voltage regulator with Studebaker part from a 1956 model if you are using a Generator.

IGNITION: Here we have to replace the coil with a new 12 volt coil. Be sure when installing to reverse the wires going to it. The wire that had previously gone to the positive post of the coil now goes to the negative and the wire that previously went to the negative post of the coil now goes to the positive post.

Before hooking up the positive wire place a ballast resistor in the circuit between the positive coil post and the wire going to it. One like that which was used on early GM cars is commonly available at most parts houses. The remainder of the ignition can remain as is.

STARTER: Strange as it my seem, the standard 6 volt starter will in most cases work just fine on 12 volts. Do not run the starter too long (30 seconds at a time) however. The option is to either modify a 1956 starter motor drive gear or replace the flywheel ring gear with a 1956 ring gear to match the drive on a stock 1956 starter motor. I have tried neither. Not to worry, the 6 volt starter will not run backwards when the voltage is reversed (negative ground). Replace the starter relay with Studebaker part from a 1956 model, or use a Ford type from your local auto parts store.

OVERDRIVE: Replace dash mounted relay with Studebaker part from a 1956 model. Replace solenoids on the transmission with Studebaker parts from a 1956 model.

ELECTRICAL: Replace the wiper motor with Studebaker part from a 1956 model. Replace the Climitiser motor with Studebaker part from a 1956 model. Replace the defroster motor with Studebaker part from a 1956 model. The shaft hole in the fan will need to be drilled out slightly to accept the slightly larger shaft on the 1956 motor. Use a drill press if possible to ensure that the hole is straight and square. Replace the horns with Studebaker parts from a 1956 model. Replace all of the light bulbs, including the head lamps, turn signal lamps, parking and brake lamps, turn signal and high beam indicator lamps, dash lamps and dome lamp, with 12 volt light bulbs. Replace the horn relay with a 12 volt universal relay. Replace the turn signal flasher with a 12 volt heavy duty universal or Studebaker part from a 1956 model. It may be necessary to build jumper wires to connect it to the existing socket as the mounting pin arrangement is not identical. In some cases such as the fan motors ballast resistors could be used to drop the voltage. I do not recommend this however. There are 2 problems with ballast resistors. 1: When using a ballast resistor you require twice the power to operate the motor, causing a strain on the generator / alternator. 2: resistors produce heat that may be hazardous it improperly placed. In addition ballast resistors will not wok satisfactorily on gauges.

GAUGES: Now the fun begins. All of the gauges are designed for 6 volt operation. To hook them up to 12 volts will burn them out and possibly their sending units also. I found the easiest way to correct this problem was to build a voltage reducer, the diagram and parts for it are included at the end of this article. (Figure 1): When building the voltage reducer, drill several holes in the box to allow for ventilation and mount in an area under the dash that does not get excessively warm (i.e.., keep it away from the defroster ducts, etc.) Radio shack, at the time I built the voltage reducer, sold only a 5 volt regulator chip. They may now have a 6 volt chip. The 5 volt chip does a good job; however, for finer accuracy in the fuel gauge you might try and find a 6 volt chip. Such a 6 volt chip would carry the code number LM7806 regardless of manufacturer. The rest of the circuit would remain unchanged. Do not attempt to run anything other than 2 gauges maximum off this circuit. Any larger load will damage the circuit and possibly what it is that you are trying to power.

1: remove the existing positive lead from the back of the gauge and re-hook it to the negative post (after removing the existing negative post connections). 2: If the existing negative post was used a junction terminal be sure to secure all of the wires together and insulate. (Figure 2) Next run a wire from one of the original negative gauge leads to the voltage reducer power input post. Finally hook the voltage reducer power output leads to the existing positive posts of the gauges. (Figure 2)

BATTERY: Get yourself a 12 volt battery that will fit the tray. Hook negative to ground via the strap to the engine block. Hook positive to the starter relay.

CHECK: Immediately after hooking up the battery check for warm wires, smoke or burning, particularly around the ignition switch and starter relay. No, I'm not kidding, it doesn't hurt to be careful. Turn the ignition on and again check for warm wires, etc. This time check all of your new wiring and installations. Check fans, windshield wipers, turn signals, headlamps, brake lamps, gas gauge, etc. For proper operation. Start the car and test all systems. Check for warm wires etc.

All of the 1956 parts fit identically as did the original in my 1955 application with the exceptions that were noted in the text. My special thanks to Bill McDowell of Packard Farm who verified the interchangeability of parts before I started. JSD.

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The picture above shows James' diagram for the voltage regulator for the gauges. To print it select file then print view and in page setup change the page size to 90 % and print just that page. Below is the parts list of the materials needed to build the regulator, with the item number in the list below corresponding to the large numbers on the diagrams proceeding.

5 volt regulator parts list (part numbers are for radio shack)

Item    qty    part description                part #        price ea.    Total
1    2    lm7805 5 volt regulator            276-1770    1.19        2.38
2    2    0.1 mfd capacitor                    272-135       .49 *        .49
3    1    safety barrier strip                    274-658     1.49        1.49
4    2    Fuse holder                             270-739       .79 *        .79
5    2    1 amp fuse (fast acting)            270-1273     .69 **     .69
6    2    heat sink                                  276-1363     .79        1.58
7    1    experimenters project Box        270-283    3.29        3.29
8    1    18 gauge stranded wire        278-1303       2.19 ***    2.19

* 2 per package
** 3 per package
*** 3 spools, 3 colors per package

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Avanti gas line rust (fire) problem

http://www.studebaker-info.org/text3/orig_gas_lines.txt     This site has the same information as below. Gary Crabtree

The problem is so potentially dangerous for owners of at least Studebaker Avantis 9I cannot speak to the Avanti lls) on which the original fuel lines have rot been replaced, that I an going to cut and paste from my book the section where I describe the Problem and the solution - replace the fuel lines. I aPo1ogize for this being so long, but take this seriously. It could save your car from burning up or your house or shop from burning down. It could save some lives. Here goes from p. 56 of my book: Finally, check the fuel lines at the point where they pass through the body and spring hanger bracket in front of the left rear wheel. you will need to remove the wheel to adequately inspect this area. Notice how both lines are encased in rubber tubing (at least they will be if the lines are still original). Apparently the lines were encased in this rubber tubing to protect them from rocks that might hit them from the tires or from the rubbing action that might take place inside the bracket.

I am sure that made good sense to Studebaker engineers, but what they did not count on is that People like you and me would still be driving these cars almost forty years later. Over time, moisture has gotten between the rubber and the tubing and has been the best possible breeding ground for rust. If your fuel lines in this area have not been properly replaced, you almost certainty have a disaster just waiting to happen. remember, the return line is pumping fuel back to the tank—under pressure—which means that the minute a leak occurs in that line it could be spraying gas all over the place, including onto hot, exhaust system parts. Lest you think I am being an alarmist, do a little test. Carefully cut away about an inch of the rubber cover at the end behind the rear wheel. What kind of shape is the steel in there? Mine was almost paper—thin, and this is not at all unusual on cars still having the original fuel lines.

When you are convinced that it is time to replace these lines, here is what you will need and how to do it. First, drain all the fuel out of your tank. Look along the outer side of the frame in the general area of the driver’s door, and you should see a brass Tee with a drain plug. Taking all the common sense precautions, drain the fuel and transfer it to a fuel storage can. remove all the routing clamps that hold the fuel lines in place and mark the threaded holes in the frame with chalk so you can easily find them again when installing the new lines. It will also help if you will carefully observe the routing of the line; and if it is to be some months before you install the new ones, you might want to draw a “map” or take some pictures before ripping out the old lines.

Now here is what you will need to replace those lines. For the supply line you will need four pieces of 3/8” O.D. brake line in the following lengths and sequence working from back to front: 30”; union; 40”; Tee with drain plug; 60”; union; 20” piece cut to length at the front for the rubber tubing that goes to the fuel pimp.

For the return fuel line, us three pieces of 1/4” O.D. Brake line in the following lengths and sequence, working from back to front: 63” (cut to 55”); union; 12”; union; 60” cut to length at the fuel pump.

It naturally is easier to install these with the body off, but it can be done with the body on. In the case of the supply line I found it easiest to work from the drain Tee to the front and the rear, putting in the necessary bends as you thread the tubing into place. With the return line, I cut the 60” piece to 55” and worked from the area where it connected to the rubber fuel line that goes to the tank return at the left end of the cross memter, down the side rail through the spring bracket and then on forward.

If you are a stickler for authenticity (and that’s the way to maximize Your Avanti’s value), you will want to install the new pieces of rubber protective hose on the tubing in front of the rear wheel. Measure the length of the old protective pieces and buy new rubber tubing of the correct ID to slip over the l/4” and 3/8” metal tubing. Since both pieces of tubing have had the fitting end cut off at the rear cross-member end, you can slip the rubber tubing on from that end down to the area where it belongs. Use a little silicone grease to lubricate the pieces if the fit is too tight.

But you are not done until you have done one more thing. As a safety measure, use hose clamps or black silicone rubber cement to seal off the area between the protective rubber tubing and the metal tubing that runs through it. Yes, do both ends. You do not want this to once again become the breeding ground for rust. I used the silicone rubber approach so it would not disturb the appearance of authenticity.

One last detail on the installation of the steel fuel line. At the left front corner of the engine, do not let the fuel line touch, either the head or the engine block. If it does touch, heat will be transferred to the fuel line and cause gas in the line to boil, thus causing vapor lock. Also avoid allowing the line to touch the power steer pump body.


Okay, everyone, go check this out on your car now. I will be curious as to how many still have the original cased in rubber tubing in front of the driver's side rear wheel and how many have rusty fuel lines hidden beneath that rubber.

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Stan Gundry, Author / Publisher

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his is the next problem